I think all you may need to do is make the notification tell the user what they just did. The window coming up and stealing focus is invasive. I used to like Alt+Shift+Page Up/Down. Now it's going to be that thing I hate about f.lux. I never thought I'd dislike anything with f.lux.

Ok I just rewrote all this stuff. At least the recent apps should work a lot better.

about > beta or https://justgetflux.com/flux-setup4.exe

Usually this means you are using a USB-based docking station (DisplayLink). We have some support now for this in Windows 10 (newer versions), but not in older OSes.

Try this new driver for the docking station:

http://www.displaylink.org/forum/showthread.php?p=82958#post82958

@herf said in F.lux wasn't working at all. It was stuck at 800K.:

4.52 has some special handling of "bedtime" mode to prevent changes with "classic f.lux" mode - but only the remote desktop code changed in 4.51, which should not do this.
Will do some debugging on the beta and see what I can find.

Could it be that somehow it was acting as though I had classic f.lux mode enabled?

@herf said in Way to disable wake-up time?:

We don't want to over-promote a feature that pulls out a lot of functionality by default, but we want it to be there for people who need/prefer it.

I will see what people think and maybe put it in another place too.

I admit, I agree and I was thinking that before I said anything, but well, you know. :)

Yes, thanks for the question. It doesn't affect the peak brightness at all.

Our abbreviation of "% as big an effect on your body as daylight" is "% Daylight"...it may be too short. Maybe we should write it as 'circadian effect' instead.

We are trying to nudge people to think of screens and lights as things that have a big impact on how their body works. Not just the sort of aw shucks, let's make it do a little less, but something we can really measure.

And so your example is a great one, because someone with a 13" laptop screen just sees a ton less light than your 4-monitor setup, and we're trying to put a number on that, so we can "fix" it.

Most people would probably think f.lux is only changing their screen (maybe that's all they expect), but our work is mostly on how those screens and lights affect your circadian system.

So when that screen changes your body and circadian timing (and we can measure or simulate it), we are trying to find a way to talk about that effect, which is complicated. But we're trying to do it anyway. :)

It sounds to me like Windows Update is replacing the driver you're installing with a Microsoft NVIDIA driver, and apparently it's a bad driver. So, watch for this update and hide it. Don't let Windows Update install updates automatically for now.

If you don't have the ability to do this, then use this: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3073930

Here's the direct download of the tool in the article above: http://download.microsoft.com/download/f/2/2/f22d5fdb-59cd-4275-8c95-1be17bf70b21/wushowhide.diagcab

This should give you the ability to hide updates that you no longer want, such as all driver updates.

I mean it is too big and confusing and adding small options like this would make it more confusing unless I hide them behind tabs.

Hi Ian - are you using the newer version (v4)? It should not have this issue.
We have not updated everyone yet, so you can try downloading again at https://justgetflux.com/

If you are on v4 already, I will look into it...

@herf It is better ! "Current" adds some understanding.

Think about naming these two concepts. "Effects" is good. Add the concept definitions there, nearby.

It doesn't matter how big or small the program is, appdata is not for executables, period!
If every developer used this logic "my app is so small, no reason ask user were to install it" the PC would turn into smart phone clone (although it seems windows is heading that way anyway)

How many Windows users out there that don't have admin privileges on their Windows PC? Perhaps by providing ability change installation directory it would allow install by non-admin and receive updates by non-admins. Or better yet - a portable version would kill 3 birds with one stone...

Regarding updates, there are two different approaches in software updates:

update notification with provided ability to install forced update

A good software would use #1 and allow user choice if they want update or not (and perhaps even allow them chose if app should remember their choice in next update). Many users don't like fresh updates, because often it bring more problems and they want to see other users responses first.
f.lux unfortunately chosen #2, doing it without user's consent, opening a door for installing whatever it wants without user's knowledge, sorry, but that's exactly how backdoor trojans work...
"You simply cannot convince millions of people to update by hand, it doesn't work." that's precisely why #2 approach is bad, because a lot of people disable auto updates that happen without their knowledge and now have to update it manually.

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And f.lux team being an asshole, by giving negative reputation to posts they don't like, while we, mortals, can only give positive reputation...

Thank you! I'll look forward to its return then.

The beta version I posted yesterday says "Adjust day and night colors together..."

It will need an editing pass to reduce the word count, but I'm trying to fix it. :)

@herf In general ! I haven't tried f.lux as of yet! Please include Text-size customizations within f.lux interface so that one could tinker with Font-settings for entire Win OS. How do you make your Desktop items appear in Bold text size? Pl reveal ?

it already does, right click the flux icon > disable > for full-screen app