Light is making your body earlier rephrasing
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I'm confident it will come up again, and again. It's obviously a problem phrase if so many people are querying it. Regardless of your view and your slightly unsettling emotional investment into this topic (hehe); if a great number of people don't understand the phrase it obviously needs better explaining. I'm not stupid and I do think it's an iffy phrase. Stop looking at the posts if these are such a bother dude. I have tried to be polite but there has been so much dribble in between not very useful information. This forum should be informative, not hostile. Goodbye
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I'm not being hostile. You should know that based on everything I have said so far. I have made where I'm coming from very clear.
As I said: put yourself in my place. I've had to see this damn discussion get resurrected over and over and over and over and over and over and over several times every year for the last I-don't-know-how-many-years. I'm sick of it! You'd be sick of it too. A person can only take so much of the same annoying crap. This discussion NEVER accomplishes anything. Ever. I've tried and tried and have done my absolute BEST to educate others, but I'm at my frickin' wit's end with this stupid discussion. Since the day this phrase was put in f.lux, it has remained 100% unchanged, and believe me, there have been FAR better ideas for new phrases than yours. Far better. The problem is, none of them have ever been as perfect or as accurate or as elegantly succinct as the current one.
Do a forum search for this damn topic, and you will see for yourself.
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If the user TWO CABLES really thinks that the sentence "light is making your body later/earlier" is "perfect" then they are not the person who should be giving advice. These are very hostile responses from the user TWOCABLES and the user is candidly oblivious to how they are coming across.
Sometimes it's not worth going to the internet for information/advice, especially in a forum like this where you ask a question and are then headbashed for not "getting it".
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Email f.lux and ask them to explain it, hopefully without the attitude ;) > support@justgetflux.com
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@amauser said in Light is making your body earlier rephrasing:
If the user TWO CABLES really thinks that the sentence "light is making your body later/earlier" is "perfect" then they are not the person who should be giving advice. These are very hostile responses from the user TWOCABLES and the user is candidly oblivious to how they are coming across.
Sometimes it's not worth going to the internet for information/advice, especially in a forum like this where you ask a question and are then headbashed for not "getting it".
I don't appreciate this one bit. It looks like you want to start a fight, and I'm definitely not interested. If you want to have a discussion, then fine, let's have a discussion. It seems to me that all you want to do is bash me and I'm not tolerating it.
Do a forum search for this discussion. Then you'll see how long it's been taking place, and you'll see how many attempts have been made to improve this phrase, and you'll see a complete lack of success from anyone. The fact that this phrase hasn't been altered one iota since the day it was added to the f.lux window proves that it's just fine as it is.
The first several times this discussion came up, it wasn't annoying. In fact, I learned what the phrase means due to this phrase being questioned by others because it made me take a look at it. So, I'm glad it was questioned, but it has been questioned so many damn times since then that now it has become extremely irritating.
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That message was clearly for the OP. Twocables you a having a negative input, you are stifling the ability to have a conversation and you haven't actually explained anything to the OP other than your frustration at a question that still doesn't have a clearly explained answer.
If it does, please copy paste it below and keep the personal opinion above that to yourself..
You say that ;
- "There's nothing more that needs to be said" yet you have failed to address syntax issues with the phrase other than to say the phrase is "absolutely 100% perfect as-is"
- "I am so damn sick of this discussion"
- "I actually get pissed off"
- "the most annoying discussion I've ever seen"
- "everyone seems to think they know better when in fact THEY DON'T"
- "I'm not being hostile"
- "I'm at my frickin' wit's end with this stupid discussion"
- "there have been FAR better ideas for new phrases than yours"
- "It looks like you want to start a fight, and I'm definitely not interested"
Hmmm, all quotes from you. This is the wrong place to come for advice people
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It has been clearly answered dozens of times in other threads. As I said, I and others have made SEVERAL attempts to explain this phrase. No one ever listens or accepts the answers given. So why should I waste my time again here? It's just going to have the same result. Do a forum search and read the posts. I refuse to try YET AGAIN to explain this phrase because I know exactly how it will go because every time I try or someone else tries, it's the exact same thing, every, single, time. Nothing I can say here will be any better or different than what has already been offered. So, just do a forum search. I am absolutely sick and tired of this damn discussion coming back over and over and over. I'm not referring to THIS THREAD. I'm referring to this particular discussion which has spanned multiple threads.
When you are looking to bring up a discussion that has been brought up dozens and dozens of times before and has never gotten anywhere because people always reject the answers and explanations of the phrase we give, it should be no surprise that I have pretty much run out of patience with this.
This doesn't mean I won't have patience for other questions. No. THIS ONE THOUGH?! Omg. You have no idea how many times it has been resurrected and beaten to death. It's ridiculous. It has become the single most annoying thing I have ever seen on any forum.
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Clarification: I'm not involved with f.lux or this forum. I'm just someone who has enjoyed helping on this forum. I usually have unlimited patience because each post is from a new person (it would be quite a pain in the rear to have to keep answering the same question from the same person every day). However, this particular thing has caused me to lose my patience - but only for this thing. It just keeps being brought up and brought up and brought up and brought up and brought up and brought up. Good lord. Enough already. Do a forum search.
Ultimately, I can tell you this much right now: the phrase will never be changed because it's perfect as-is. Don't you think they would've changed it by now? Dozens and dozens of different phrases have been proposed, none have even been considered. It's better to just understand the phrase that's in use if it's really bothering you that much.
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This is not about you.
This is not just your forum.
If you know the answer you should be able to share it/ copy paste it and walk away.
Most of the threads talking about this phrase have questions that get casually ignored, such as in this thread.
It IS pointless to seek an answer when people like yourself is providing, or more correctly abstaining from providing an answer based on your own feelings.
Have already done a forum search and cannot find a clear answer and many questions not adressed.
THE FORUM SEARCH WAS THE FIRST THING THAT WAS DONE
I REPEAT, MANY QUESTIONS ARE IGNORED
YOU ARE DOING MOST OF THE ANSWERING IN THESE THREADS
TELLING PEOPLE THE PHRASE IS PERFECT BUT IGNORING PEOPLE'S VALID QUESTIONS AND LINES OF REASONING
Your attitude is miserable
You may not be involved with f.lux but you are definitely taking over this site
Like the folks that screamed the earth was flat and would stone anyone who said otherwise...
Enjoy your forum, this disturbing place
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"LIGHT NOW IS EXTENDING (YOUR PLANNED) SUNSET BY X MINUTES" (X being minutes since sunset)
"LIGHT NOW IS ADVANCING (YOUR PLANNED) SUNRISE BY X MINUTES" (X being minutes until sunrise)
If i'm awake all night and I see the message "Light is making your body earlier" before sunrise, and I have been in light all night long, the message would be incorrect, light all night has in fact made my body much later. If I had come from a dark room/place then it would be accurate, but that is making an assumption for something that is not defined. There is too much to assume from the current statements and therefore they are NOT perfect.
Not to mention, there is no explanation why changing the colour temp at certain times of day changes the message seen.
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If I say to you, "you're running a bit late, aren't you?", rhetorically, I could mean any number of things, from mild surprise or to annoyance at someone's tardiness etc, or, I could be sarcastically insulting your intelligence. Context and explanation are important but, unfortunately, you will find little of that here.
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@userlux Those are much better. I think most people would understand that without have to refer to other explanations.
