f.lux beta (another thread)



  • @disqQ said in f.lux beta (another thread):

    What exactly Software mouse cursor (fixes "white cursor") does in this new build? I see it's not using MouseTrails in the Registry.

    I know you're looking for an answer from Mike or Lorna, but it looks to me like it's doing the same thing that the Windows Magnifier is doing.



  • @TwoCables Hmm, but the Magnifier process is also not running. But yes, probably isn't something new.



  • @disqQ said in f.lux beta (another thread):

    @TwoCables Hmm, but the Magnifier process is also not running. But yes, probably isn't something new.

    Oh I didn't mean to say that I thought the Magnifier was being used.



  • Great! No "coming back from slumber" issue and "greenish color" issue any more on my external monitor with 4.26.



  • The software mouse cursor isn't working for me in 4.26. I went back to 4.25 for now so that I don't have to worry about it until you can check it out.



  • @disqQ said in f.lux beta (another thread):

    @TwoCables You can also get it via link, as usual, at: https://justgetflux.com/flux-setup4-25.exe

    So, thanks for the link. hehe



  • (version 4.26)

    Hi

    Nice to see Philips Hue integration working again!

    Unfortunately, with the current features it is quite unusable for me. Here are some of my issues:

    It controls all lights in the setup, I can not specify individual lights. I only want to control the light behind my screen.

    Brightness is always set to maximum. I would like to set the brightness myself. It is too bright in the evening.

    I can not set the max. color temperature.

    I'm aware, that the Hue integration has no priority, still, it would be very nice to have more options!

    Thanks for your work!



  • (version 4.26)

    Hi, nice changelog. Tried the Vignette mode but on multiple monitors, the white spot is in between of the two.
    Would be great to choose the weight of Vignette (radius and effect)

    Another thing, even I think the interface is not user-friendly. There is more options now, that is great but I'm missing for example the settings button. Now I have to right click and choose the third from top.
    I would rather see: 1st - Open F.Lux, 2nd - Settings, Next-to-least - About., Least - Exit F.Lux
    And move Change location to Settings. Or to main window as button. This is option that is set once and forgotten. It should be somewhere where it is not in the way for other things.

    Disable for... does not work when I have open F.Lux window. When I minimize it, click on Sublime Text, right click on F.Lux task icon, there is Disable for Sublime Text and Disable for Chrome. But when I'm focusing Chrome, Disable for only shows Chrome, not Sublime Text. Weird :-)

    I find it kind of disrupting that when I have opened F.Lux window and I lose focus (click on Chrome / Away for a second) it will minimalize itself in like 5 seconds... Please disable this. Or make it an option in settings

    When mouse is pointing on the waves diagram, it would be cool to show vertical bar with time stamp so I would see the time. Reason: I set a random location somewhere thousands of kilometers from my location to "pinpoint" settings when it will go down. But I don't see anywhere the exact time. Just guessing.

    And the last one: Is it really so problematic to add to the main window User-setting of time?

    • Daytime: 6AM, Temp: ...
    • Sunset: 21PM, Temp: ...
    • Bedtime: 23PM, Temp: ...
    • Transition: Immediate | X minutes

    (Just like you have it in the Adjust all colors at once but with those time settings on the left of the movable bar.)

    Everyone would be happy in my opinion. I understand you had a LOT of work with the location system. But give users the availability to change it to user-specific times. Some people go to be at 8PM, some at 2AM. Night owls.

    Anyway, great improvement. Those are only my points. I love your program. So I would love it to be even better :-D


  • f.lux team

    @little-nemo thanks - these things are on our list... and we even have the brightness parameters internally (just no UI for them yet). Hopefully soon (but probably not this version).



  • The reason why Chrome shows when you do that is, it's giving you the option of also disabling f.lux for Chrome in addition to your other program. If you want to undo disabling for a program, then just make that program the last thing in focus before you go to f.lux.

    You don't need to see the exact time. The ball that's on the curves shows you where you are and what your light sensitivity likely is. It is based entirely on your set wake-up time. So, it's best to just focus on where the ball says you are in your likely light sensitivity based on your wake-up time.

    If you don't want to tell f.lux when you will be waking up, then tell it when you woke up by simply choosing the time that you got out of bed that day. Simple. :) That way, you'll always be able to look at the ball to see what your most likely light sensitivity is. Adjust your "wake time" and you'll see. Keep doing it and keep studying where the ball ends up. Before long, you will know how to read it.



  • @TwoCables I know how to enable/disable. I was just wondering why after focusing Chrome there is only Chrome and after focusing Sublime there is Chrome and Sublime. But maybe I was just quick and there is some time limit like 10s or sth like that.

    Time: Ok so... If I print screen my f.lux setting, when exactly will my screen begin to dim? MyFluxLocSettings



  • Hi.
    Currently I am using beta 4.26 version. I have a question and suggestion.
    How to change the color changing time schedule (like the newly added 'Adjust all color at once')?
    If it's not available in the application, then is it possible to add this feature. because its always change the color automatically, but I want to set the timing manually. I have found that there is only one time change option available but I want Daytime, Sunset and Bed time change slider at the same time manually. Hope you understand my point.
    Thanks
    Hassan.



  • @SonGokussj4 said in f.lux beta (another thread):

    @TwoCables I know how to enable/disable. I was just wondering why after focusing Chrome there is only Chrome and after focusing Sublime there is Chrome and Sublime. But maybe I was just quick and there is some time limit like 10s or sth like that.

    Time: Ok so... If I print screen my f.lux setting, when exactly will my screen begin to dim? MyFluxLocSettings

    I just told you why. It's doing that so that you can disable Chrome in addition to that other program (multiple programs instead of only 1 at a time). I was not trying to tell you how to disable and enable.

    I can't tell you when your color temperature will change because I don't know what time you took that screenshot at. I don't know what time zone your in. So again, continually play with your wake time setting and you will soon get a feel for what you are looking at.

    Is your sunset really in 1 hour? It doesn't matter. What matters is, does that ball really represent where you are in terms of your most likely sensitivity to light? Do you feel that you've been awake long enough that you will want to go to bed in maybe 3-4 hours? Judging from where you are on the curve, you should be thinking about going to bed in a few hours.



  • Hello.
    I use DisplayCAL to calibrate my monitor. Since the 4.22 update where you added "Use Monitor Data", f.lux resets my calibration when I open it no matter what time of day it is and whether or not the "Use Monitor Data" setting is checked. Is there any way for me to fix this? So far I've been forced to return to f.lux 4.21 in order to keep my calibration in tact.



  • @TwoCables It looks like they might have taken the screenshot in proximity of 7:45 pm? (Not sure that helps, but...)



  • @citrusella said in f.lux beta (another thread):

    @TwoCables It looks like they might have taken the screenshot in proximity of 7:45 pm? (Not sure that helps, but...)

    I see why you think that. Nevermind. I had a much worse post than this, so yeah this post isn't the original version.

    It says they've been awake for 12 hours. However, they said they manipulate the time zone quite a bit.

    So, yeah, I know what I'm looking at here, but considering how unique their usage of f.lux is, I can't go by that screenshot.



  • I'll just try to explain this using my copy of f.lux.

    Ok. At the time of this post, it is 12:50 PM. Considering that, let's tell f.lux that I woke up at 6am. This isn't true, but let's just pretend I did. Now, as you would expect, my light sensitivity would be extremely low right now, and that's precisely what f.lux says:

    0_1492796653936_f.lux example.png

    Check that out. Pretty much no light sensitivity, just as you would expect.

    Now, let's change my wake-up time. Let's tell f.lux I've been awake for 14 hours. Check it out:

    0_1492796764590_f.lux example 2.png

    As you would expect, being awake for about 14 hours means you're likely going to begin being very sensitive to light and you will want to think about going to bed within an hour or 2. The location of the ball is right where it should be.

    Let's do one more! Let's tell f.lux I've been awake for just over 15 hours. Check it out:

    0_1492796969235_f.lux example 3.png

    When was the last time you had been awake for 15 hours? Do you remember how you felt? Do you remember how sensitive to light you were in comparison to just 6 hours prior? Yeah, I'd say this is quite accurate. Look at how sensitive to light it says I am. It's almost maxed out! Let's max it out just for fun:

    0_1492797131798_f.lux example 4.png

    There we go. 16 hours. Carefully observe how you feel the next time you've been awake for about 16 hours.

    Can you see how this works? I can post more examples if it will help.

    As you can see, one of the goals that Mike and Lorna has is to educate us so that we can improve our quality of life. F.lux is far more than just a simple little program.



  • @herf

    Thats great! Brightness setting is really welcome! I am looking for fixed mouse cursor (broken in v4.26 - reported here in the another topic).

    Any ETA for the brightness? Maybe in v4.30? :)



  • @TwoCables Thank you for this and the post before. Really nice explanation. I'm starting to get it maybe.
    When I wrote that message, that was the time of my screenshot.
    I changed location so that it would dim my display right around now (20:00 - 21:00).
    So now (20.45) with location: 39.40N, 3.20E (Spain island vertically under Paris)
    20:45

    If I change the location to my current location 49.10N, 17.50E (Czech Republic)
    My screen dims to the Sundown color. So I think it starts around (19:00 - 21:00).
    20:45

    My problem is, I want it to start dimming my display at around 20:00 - 21:00, not before. Modifying is my earliest wake time does not help with this. I think. Do I not understand something with f.lux functionality?


  • f.lux team

    Mouse fix is rolling out as 4.27 - sorry I just broke the checkbox.



  • @herf said in f.lux beta (another thread):

    Mouse fix is rolling out as 4.27 - sorry I just broke the checkbox.

    hehehe good job. :)



  • @herf Thank you for your work! F.lux is really amazing piece of software, must have!

    I am looking for other improvements and features, keep us updating.

    P.S. Would be nice to add a link to your website for changelogs/post changelogs for every version here on forum in one thread.



  • @herf can you please explain what exactly Software mouse cursor (fixes "white cursor") does in these last builds?



  • The new build seems to have fixed my calibration issues. I'm not sure how, but thanks.



  • v4.27 - I like the new way how you redesigned the f.lux settings - much better!

    My ideas:

    • make the setting icon under the day preview easier to open - some users dont know that it is settings
    • add a link to change location to this menu (mentioned above)
    • settings for disable - I think that name of apps is not complete (only one word from the first name; should you capital letter)
    • on mouse hover (icon next to the clock) - show color temperature

    Just my ideas, sorry for my English, not my native language.



  • I think there should be a way to manually choose a program when configuring autodisable settings. Having to start the program and have it selected is kind of a pain and not always practical.
    Also, for some reason f.lux un-hides itself from the system tray at start. That's kind of annoying.



  • @KZcheese said in f.lux beta (another thread):

    I think there should be a way to manually choose a program when configuring autodisable settings. Having to start the program and have it selected is kind of a pain and not always practical.

    I agree!



  • BTW shouldn't there be an option to stop f.lux from running at startup? I know the point is to integrate the program seamlessly with windows but an option would still be nice.



  • So Windows has these Notification Area Icon settings where you can change stuff on a per app basis, since flux changes path to the exe on every update (assumed) it counts as a new app for those settings and falls back to the default.
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    Can this be avoided? I suggested using Squirrel (https://github.com/Squirrel/) as an updater before, it avoids this by pointing to a stub exe which never changes path/version but if you don't want to use Squirrel, the same technique could be applied here, too.



  • @opensan said in f.lux beta (another thread):

    I'm on 4.21 and it doesn't play nice with Windows 10 (toast) notifications. As there is no option in the program's menus, I switch off the sound or even the notification altogether in WIndows Settings (screenshot attached), but after a system restart, f.lux resets the notifications, creating a new entry in the notifications app list.
    Screenshot of windows notification options
    As if f.lux is registering a new instance with the notification system each time. Kind of annoying. I'd love in-program options or a fix for playing nice with Windows system.

    Otherwise I love what you did with per-app options. Been waiting for it for ages.

    Oh this is the same problem I just reported, sorry for duping. It's because of the path of the exe changes with every update



  • Oh also, an option to not popup the changelog on every update? It's like a scare jump for me :)



  • It's still broken.



  • @KZcheese said in f.lux beta (another thread):

    BTW shouldn't there be an option to stop f.lux from running at startup? I know the point is to integrate the program seamlessly with windows but an option would still be nice.

    This.

    I am always disabling it on every single update by deleting this Registry subkey:

    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run f.lux* (it's in the right-hand pane)

    I don't need it or want it starting with Windows.



  • @TwoCables I usually disable it in the Windows 10 Task Manager or CCleaner when I need to. I find that much easier.



  • @KZcheese said in f.lux beta (another thread):

    @TwoCables I usually disable it in the Windows 10 Task Manager or CCleaner when I need to. I find that much easier.

    I have Windows 7, so I have to delete that Registry sub key. I refuse to use CCleaner for any reason as well.

    For me, getting it out of the Registry is super fast because I have that main key as one of my Registry 'Favorites' (among others). It's a 'Run' key, and so it's useful for more than just stopping f.lux from starting with Windows.



  • Yeah that's another issue caused by the installer



  • @Stanzilla said in f.lux beta (another thread):

    Yeah that's another issue caused by the installer

    ??

    I have no issues caused by the installer.



  • Also, I was using 4.25 when 4.27 was pushed out and I had my automatic updating turned off. Yet, I still got the "f.lux is updating" page even though f.lux didn't update (until I decided to allow it to update).



  • @TwoCables said in f.lux beta (another thread):

    @Stanzilla said in f.lux beta (another thread):

    Yeah that's another issue caused by the installer

    ??

    I have no issues caused by the installer.

    If the installer has no option to not set the reg key then yes, it is



  • @Stanzilla said in f.lux beta (another thread):

    @TwoCables said in f.lux beta (another thread):

    @Stanzilla said in f.lux beta (another thread):

    Yeah that's another issue caused by the installer

    ??

    I have no issues caused by the installer.

    If the installer has no option to not set the reg key then yes, it is

    We were talking about having the option be in the UI. We just need a simple option in the UI to choose whether f.lux starts with Windows. That way, the installer can stay simple and those who shouldn't be messing with this won't be enticed to.



  • Hi there,

    I have been waiting patiently for the new windows version to come out. However i'm really bummed out that there is no ability to SET CUSTOM TIMES. I live in Alaska, almost NEVER is the sun agreeable with my work and sleep schedule. There were promises in past forum posts by the developers that this was to be included!

    While I like to travel, constantly changing the location on the Flux map is not what I had in mind.

    If I have somehow missed it, forgive me and tell me how to do it. If I have not, please consider adding it as soon as possible! There really is no other way this program will be useful for me anymore over Win 10 built in.

    Thank you,
    Max



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  • Nice to see Philips Hue integration working again!
    Unfortunately, with the current features it is quite unusable for me. Here are some of my issues:
    It controls all lights in the setup, I can not specify individual lights. I only want to control the light behind my screen.
    Brightness is always set to maximum. I would like to set the brightness myself. It is too bright in the evening.
    I can not set the max. color temperature.
    I'm aware, that the Hue integration has no priority, still, it would be very nice to have more options!
    Thanks for your work!

    @herf said:

    @little-nemo thanks - these things are on our list... and we even have the brightness parameters internally (just no UI for them yet). Hopefully soon (but probably not this version).

    That's nice! Looking forward!



  • I've been using the Beta for two weeks or so and I like some of the new features - mainly the ability to automatically go a bit "deeper" late in the night. However there have been some issues as well.

    One gripe of mine has been the (often mentioned) taskbar bug where the f.lux icon resets itself to the 1st (visible) position on every restart.

    The other is related to my specific setup which is a dual-monitor: Primary (external HDMI monitor) & Secondary (laptop screen). I've noticed that f.lux beta adjusts my gamma (for the lack of better terminology) on my Primary monitor depending on the Secondary (laptop) monitor's brightness. This happens even during the day. I normally keep my laptop at 25% and external monitor stays always at 30%. However when I play with brightness values on the laptop monitor (for example in the Windows 10 action center) and going from 0% > 25% > 50% >75% > 100% the picture on my primary external monitor changes as well even though its brightness is still set to 30%.

    0% brightness on laptop results to something like 1.1 gamma on external monitor (colors look a bit washed-out and the whole picture is sort of like "looking through a fog").
    25% = 1.05
    50% = 1.00
    75% = 0.95
    100% = 0.90

    I since switched back to the regular version since it allows me to maintain more vibrant (not so washed-out) colors independently on the brightness settings on my laptop's monitor. Even with only 25% brightness on laptop I'm getting nicer colors (0.9 gamma) on my external screen.


  • f.lux team

    @K4m1k4z3 thanks - this should not happen except at the most extreme dimming settings. We will fix.



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  • Still has this bug with the task tray.

    After each Windows (10) reboot, it forces itself back here.

    I want it to stay here like it did before.



  • Yeah he hasn't said anything about trying to address this yet.

    For the record, I don't hide any of my Notification Area icons.


  • f.lux team

    @No.794 we are working on this - we've added about 20 features, and we want people to have a chance to see them before the icon is hidden.

    It is hard to explain how big the difference is between savvy users and the less sophisticated ones that don't know how to find the app, but we get hundreds of emails about "how do I change settings? every day. (But it will not stay there forever, especially for people who don't want it to.)



  • @herf Alright, thanks for the answer. Just wanted to make sure the issue was acknowledged.