Good quality trustworthy red LED light bulbs?



  • If you want a monitor with stronger contrast then get an AMVA panel from BenQ.



  • @timpster said:

    I'd probably go with a filtered red light. I think it's lower price as well.

    Glad you found some that work.

    Thank you. So am I. I still wish they were dimmer though.

    Why would you worry about the price when they will probably outlive you? I'm barely using these for 1 hour per day and they're supposed to last up to 25,000 hours. Even if I were to use them for like 12 hours per day or longer, their price is still extremely low.

    So, don't look at the cost that you pay for them on the day that you pay for them. For how long they last, they're significantly cheaper than incandescent bulbs.



  • If you want REALLY nice lights by Philips for a really really low price, look for the packs of "everyday" bulbs they make!



  • @timpster said:

    If you want REALLY nice lights by Philips for a really really low price, look for the packs of "everyday" bulbs they make!

    Red LEDs?



  • @timpster said:

    If you want a monitor with stronger contrast then get an AMVA panel from BenQ.

    I'm not looking for a new monitor. I don't know where you got that impression from. lol



  • "and this red CFL is making it clear to me that this setting still has blue in it thanks to my monitor. "

    Just save $2-3 a day and in a few months you'll easily have $200+ to spend on a monitor that has a much better black level, and much less light leakage because AMVA is just great like that.



  • @timpster said:

    "and this red CFL is making it clear to me that this setting still has blue in it thanks to my monitor. "

    Just save $2-3 a day and in a few months you'll easily have $200+ to spend on a monitor that has a much better black level, and much less light leakage because AMVA is just great like that.

    That's not related to contrast. That's due to the color output of my monitor. Maybe.

    So what I was saying was, I used to think that 1200K was quite red. However, when the only light in my room is a very red CFL or LED, the 1200K setting seems to reveal itself as not being quite as red as I thought. I blamed my monitor, but in hindsight, I think that it's just because 1200K is a colder color than I once thought. Maybe I am looking for about 800K. I don't know. Regardless, I wasn't saying that I want a new monitor.



  • I think you may have some backlight bleed as 1200k should be a strong orange red. With backlight bleed the color doesn't output as strongly as a CRT would.



  • @timpster said:

    I think you may have some backlight bleed as 1200k should be a strong orange red. With backlight bleed the color doesn't output as strongly as a CRT would.

    It is a strong orange red, but what I'm saying is that I used to think that it was just plain red. I learned that it's not just plain red due to having nothing but pure red ambient light.



  • @TwoCables said:

    @timpster said:

    If you want REALLY nice lights by Philips for a really really low price, look for the packs of "everyday" bulbs they make!

    Red LEDs?

    Warm white.


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    @TwoCables are the Feit bulbs you got the "sea turtle safe" ones? I just bought a few to put under the spectrometer, and they look very good.



  • @timpster said:

    @TwoCables said:

    @timpster said:

    If you want REALLY nice lights by Philips for a really really low price, look for the packs of "everyday" bulbs they make!

    Red LEDs?

    Warm white.

    I'm curious: why are you recommending warm white LED lights? As I said in my original post, I already have the SWITCH brand 3-way lights, and they are excellent. I like them so much that my heart has been crushed ever since they went out of business. The quality and color of the light they produce and their liquid-cooling technology is simply awesome.

    Besides, I made this thread to have red LED lights recommended to me. I don't want or need any other lights right now.

    @lorna said:

    @TwoCables are the Feit bulbs you got the "sea turtle safe" ones? I just bought a few to put under the spectrometer, and they look very good.

    Yep, they are! :)

    I am very glad that they look good under the spectrometer. Thank you for telling me! The only thing that I don't like is how bright they are. lol So, I went back to Menards today and I added those Westinghouse 1W red LED lights to my little red LED collection here, and they are definitely dimmer, almost TOO dim. So, FEIT's 3W LEDs are extremely efficient. I kept the FEITs because I want to be able to do the following at my bedtime: swap both of my SWITCH 3-ways out for my FEIT red LEDs until it's time for me to turn my computer off. When it's finally time for me to turn my computer off, I'll swap my red FEITs for my red Westinghouse's. So, I'm dimming my red light without using a dimmer (because these aren't dimmable). lol

    If you're wondering what I will do when my bedtime ends up being sometime during the day, I will probably just keep the FEITs on in order to drown out the bluish light that bleeds through my room darkening blinds during the day. The Westinghouse LEDs are extremely dim. I don't think they're meant to really light up a room, but they're almost exactly what I wanted: very dim red light when I turn my computer off at night when I'm going to bed. So, I'm very happy now. I just wish I had more floor space for additional floor lamps. lol It's a good start though.



  • Damn SWITCH went out of business?! Well that's not cool. Maybe they didn't get enough recognition and liquid cooling may have confused a few people. Ever since you described them a while back I always thought they were awesome.

    I recommended the $2.50/bulb 6 packs so if you ever need more warm white light in other areas you wouldn't have to spend much and save your money on other stuff -- I'm even going to buy a few packs.





  • @timpster said:

    Damn SWITCH went out of business?! Well that's not cool. Maybe they didn't get enough recognition and liquid cooling may have confused a few people. Ever since you described them a while back I always thought they were awesome.

    I recommended the $2.50/bulb 6 packs so if you ever need more warm white light in other areas you wouldn't have to spend much and save your money on other stuff -- I'm even going to buy a few packs.

    Aw, thank you for your thoughtfulness, but I'm not looking for any or asking for any recommendations. ;) I'm only interested in red LED lights right now. Fortunately, I think my fear of FEIT as being a crappy low-quality manufacturer is being washed away by this experience so far. Even these cheap little 1W red LEDs made by Westinghouse are nice. They're a bit too dim, but fortunately they're just bright enough for what I will be using them for - at least after sunset (they're not bright enough to use during the day unless I can block 100% of the day light). If you're wondering, here's how it will go down when I'm at the last couple hours of my day:

    1. Turn my SWITCH 3-ways to their lowest setting so that they can cool off while still providing plenty of light. Of course, this also helps me begin relaxing.

    2. After about 30 minutes, they are usually cool enough to handle without being burned (they're still hot though). So this is when I will replace both SWITCH 3-ways with my red FEIT LED lights. Before anyone says that LED bulbs don't get hot, YES THEY DO. They just take like 15 minutes to heat up.

    3. I'll sit here with those on for 1-2 hours, and at some point I will also choose 1200K in f.lux and dim my monitor all the way down. I'll also press Alt+Page Down just once because this helps reduce the washed-out appearance that I get (you might not see this on your monitor, I don't know).

    4. After maybe 45 minutes to an hour or whatever feels right that day with my red FEITs and f.lux at 1200K and all that, I'll reach a point where I'll decide that it's time to turn the computer off "soon" and go to bed. So, I'll take my melatonin when I know I'll still be using the computer for another 15 or 20 minutes.

    5. After 15 or 20 minutes, I'll turn the computer off, replace the FEITs with the Westinghouse 1W LEDs and begin getting ready for bed. This can take 5-15 minutes and I want my light to be even dimmer during this period and fortunately, these little lights are like red night lights. They're freakin' awesome for me. Menards has discontinued them though, so I hope they last. I might go buy a half a dozen more or so just in case. My local store still has 27 in stock and they're all a bit dusty, so yeah. lol

    Even before buying these little Westinghouse LED lights, just going from having both of my FEITs on down to just one wasn't bad at all. It's a bit too bright when I have to go up to the lamp to turn it off, but still.

    My only problem with this plan is, these Westinghouse lights are tiny and they go in a normal socket. So, I have this fear of being electrocuted if I'm not careful. lol With a normal-sized bulb like A19 or bigger, my hands are much further away from the socket thanks to the bigger size. These Westinghouse 'bulbs' are like little stubs.

    @timpster said:

    Here's what happened to SWITCH

    https://gigaom.com/2014/12/01/the-sad-state-of-switch-its-liquid-cooled-led-bulb/

    I know. It's old news too. lol

    The problem that this person experienced is a new one to me though! Still, with as many as they manufactured, I'm not surprised that they had a few leaky ones. After all, we humans are incapable of creating absolute and consistent perfection. Nature dictates that imperfections arise in everything that we create sooner or later.



  • @lorna said:

    Some posts deleted, off-topic, incorrect advice, and recommending copycat programs.

    It's a joke, isn't it? What makes you so sure it was an incorrect advice? And, if your app doesn't work as it says, why it is banned to talk about it? What's bad on someone's opinions? Why didn't you just answer to it? There was no intention to harm something or someone. Just my opinion, my (maybe subjective) truth, based on gained experiences and information.



  • I'd like to know too, Lorna. What did I miss?


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  • @lorna said:

    @TwoCables are the Feit bulbs you got the "sea turtle safe" ones? I just bought a few to put under the spectrometer, and they look very good.

    I forgot to ask: when you say that they look very good, do you mean that they are a very true red without any unwanted colors?


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    I'll post the data Monday. They are the least most alerting thing we've measured.



  • @lorna said:

    I'll post the data Monday. They are the least most alerting thing we've measured.

    The least most alerting thing? What? hehe

    I'm assuming you just mean the least alerting thing. If so, then that would explain why I like them as much as I do even though they're too bright. It almost hurts my eyes in the same way that a bright Blacklight can. It's like a trick that's being played on my eyes. If I could reduce their brightness by maybe half or something, then they would be perfect. Except, I admit that I love flooding my room with red light before bed.

    If it wouldn't be too much trouble, could you measure the red Westinghouse 1W lights?



  • Haha I didn't even pick up on that mistake! That's just as bad.


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    You guys. The least alerting? The most least alerting? It's really good. There's no alerting light.



  • @lorna said:

    You guys. The least alerting? The most least alerting? It's really good. There's no alerting light.

    hehehe Oh Lorna. :)

    Anyway, all kidding and fun aside (hey, it's all out of love), I thank you for telling me and I'm very much looking forward to seeing the data.


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    Sorry for being pokey about posting the data. We are doing about four different tracks of dev right now, so sitting down to do something simple like measure stuff means finding bugs and adding new features, haha. But I have a pile on my desk waiting for me to measure them for posting. I've grabbed the most popular nightlights and nursery nightlights from Amazon.com as well. Any other lights you want to know about?



  • Oh, good idea to measure the nursery night lights and regular night lights!

    I guess the only light data I'm personally curious about are the Westinghouse brand 1W red LED lights and of course my FEIT red LEDs. Menards has both, well at least where I live.

    Although probably hard to find, I'd love to see the spectrum analysis of the SWITCH 3-WAY frosted light, and of course I'd be interested in seeing it compared to Cree's Soft White LED lights and their Daylight LED lights. I have a feeling that the SWITCH 3-WAY lights have a fuller spectrum, based on what I experienced.

    Take all the time that you need though.



  • @lorna hi the new guy here :)

    Are these the Feit RED LED's that everyone is referring to?

    A19/R/LED

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FA5UMB2/

    Listing says "sea turtle safe" Wanted to make sure before I bought them. Thanks :(



  • @LuckyThree said in Good quality trustworthy red LED light bulbs?:

    @lorna hi the new guy here :)

    Are these the Feit RED LED's that everyone is referring to?

    A19/R/LED

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FA5UMB2/

    Listing says "sea turtle safe" Wanted to make sure before I bought them. Thanks :(

    Yep! Those are my beloved red LEDs. Sure, they might be fairly bright (I would equate them to a 40W or 60W incandescent), but they are fantastically non-alerting for me. I wish I could find the same quality of red LED in a super dim 0.5W or 1W version. I've seen lots of 0.5W and 1W red LEDs, but I don't know how good they are.

    I have to laugh at the specs. It claims 3000K. They couldn't be more wrong if they had tried. 3000K is colder than a normal 2700K incandescent light. These FEIT lights are pure red. I'd say they're probably close 800K. When I use these lights and set f.lux to 800K, I really no longer notice how red my monitor is. It just looks dim and super comfortable to look at. If anything, it's not as quite as red as the LED light!



  • @TwoCables Wow thanks for the quick reply! You must be a DSPS'er or just up way early!

    I'd like to see the spectro data from these. Maybe @lorna can post it. Unless I missed it somewhere in Fluxometer.

    Cheers :(



  • Oh wow, you are right. Amazon shows 3000k. I don't see any way that can possbly be correct!



  • @LuckyThree said in Good quality trustworthy red LED light bulbs?:

    @TwoCables Wow thanks for the quick reply! You must be a DSPS'er or just up way early!

    I'd like to see the spectro data from these. Maybe @lorna can post it. Unless I missed it somewhere in Fluxometer.

    Cheers :(

    I guess there's a possibility I have Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome, but I don't have a consistent schedule at all. I have to simply go to sleep when I need to, and wake up when I'm done sleeping. So, I'm never sure when I'll be going to sleep or waking up. The time that I go to sleep can be at anytime of the day or night, and the time I wake up can be roughly 6 hours later, 12 hours later, or even 18 hours later. When I go to sleep and wake up all depends on how I feel.

    Yeah, you know, I've been wanting those measurements as well. I think it would be fun to know.


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    @LuckyThree your wish is my command -
    this is the exact model you linked on amazon: https://fluxometer.com/rainbow/#!id=lights/Feit Red LED

    (and sorry - I thought this was already public!)



  • Awesome awesome awesome. Thank you so much. That bulb looks great!


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