Ario: Smart lighting
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@TwoCables I have a LOT of thoughts about this - you're right that it takes a long time to change hearts and minds, and it is definitely a huge boat to turn so it's slow.
I feel like the big thing is for people to re-learn how to know when their bodies are tired. This has been a problem since Edison stole fire (from Heinrich Goebel, ha) and gave it to humanity. Even since we first launched f.lux there has been a huge change. Mike likes to say there's not a lot of common sense about this stuff because everyone's biology is just different enough that there's no one right answer for 100% of the time.
When I see cheap (bright blue) night lighting brought to developing nations I want to cry, but then, many of these people had no lighting before. And there's a multibillion dollar industry that's very happy to ignore the growing evidence of how health is affected by the wrong kind of light.
Some people understand the importance of light - I find those who live in northern climates get it (Ario is based in Seattle - a city that understands the importance of light to health). How we get real progress, and get it everywhere? We can't do it overnight (see what I did there) but we are going to do it, and you are already a part of this movement.
So, challenge accepted. There's a lot to do.
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@arioda Yeah I guess don't use the quote, it just wouldn't be right.
Anyway I'm excited to know you're wanting to make even brighter lights! Hell yeah to that!
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@TwoCables NP, had to ask. We are doing everything we can in good conscience to spread the word and get people interested. I'm 64 and hoping to living long enough to see that same world. My partners are much younger so not too worried about them being available to carry the torch after I quit in 10 or 20 years
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@arioda I'd also like to know how low the brightness can go!
Edit: I'd like to word it as, how dim can it go?
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@timpster I can only post every couple hours. We can dim pretty smoothly down to zero, like 1% I think and more importantly up from it. My experience with Hue is that it lurches on like at 20% and does weird color things on the way up. If you wanted to so a hack to make a lamp to do what we do and be able to turn it off and on again with Hue, you would have trouble and it would be expensive with several like four bulbs to be as bright well OK with four bulbs it would be brigher than ours is now maybe. Their higher CCT output is pretty weeny.
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@arioda said:
@timpster I can only post every couple hours. We can dim pretty smoothly down to zero, like 1% I think and more importantly up from it. My experience with Hue is that it lurches on like at 20% and does weird color things on the way up. If you wanted to so a hack to make a lamp to do what we do and be able to turn it off and on again with Hue, you would have trouble and it would be expensive with several like four bulbs to be as bright well OK with four bulbs it would be brigher than ours is now maybe. Their higher CCT output is pretty weeny.
I own the Hue lights, and I was thinking that the price is reasonable as it's about 4x as bright. The color spectrum is also listed in the "fluxometer" it's in the menu that starts out "iPad 2" and it's one from the very bottom of the list, so you may need to keep the menu open and scroll down. Yes the spectrum is VERY low in blue, and too high in what looks like a purplish color. That's why I brought up the concern for the color, and knowing that it will look good, and I can chooose where I want it is great!
I'm definitely getting two lamps (but I want 5 or 10!!). I'll even let
some ofall of my birthday money go towrads it, just to sweeten the deal and not break the bank. Thank you for the quick and informative answers, this is great!Also, I just upvoted a few of your posts, because they are great, and also to get you out of the time limit for posting when you would like. You can disregard those notifications!
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@timpster Most kind of you with the upvotes. Hopefully I can recognize your order when it comes through. We depend on every one to put the project together so they all mean a great deal to us. Thanks!
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Bumping this thread- 32 days left to go and they're already more than double the goal. Nice work @arioda and friends
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@lorna Yeah I hope I have enough time to get a couple, they are going a bit faster than I thought they would still.
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@lorna Thanks for reaching out @timpster and @TwoCables your feedback is awesome. Thanks folks!