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    • lornaL
      lorna
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      A reminder: personal attacks are not allowed on this forum so please keep it civil. Comments about someone else's understanding of the English language are not okay - people come to this forum from all over the world. Native and non-native English speakers are equally welcome.

      As we've explained, the wording is intentional. Hopefully it will become more clear as we develop the software around some of these concepts - our way to talk about this concept is evolving as well. We understand that many people feel strongly about comparative adjectives and we always appreciate hearing politely stated opinions,

      @lorna

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        Ryrynz @lorna
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        @lorna there hasn't been any comment about anyone's understanding of the English language.. I just said it's bad use of it. A body can be aged it can be tired it can be sick it can be hungry, It cannot be late. Can someone tell me how I could make my body earlier? Thanks.

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        • herfH
          herf
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          I think people have a tendency to ignore how universal the circadian clock is.

          If you were observing animals and one did all its daily activities four hours later than the rest, you might say it was "late". You wouldn't need to specify that one brain region that entrains millions of other clocks in the body was phase-delayed.

          Well over half the biological processes in the body respond to light-based entrainment. There are millions of clocks that all listen to this signal. And so we might be over-simplifying, but it is for a good reason, that we think it is important! (And we have a UI without room for two paragraphs, but that's another thing.)

          And anyway, if you want to make your body earlier tomorrow, you should go see bright light in the morning.

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          • lornaL
            lorna @Ryrynz
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            @Ryrynz said in Body later?:

            @TwoCables Why do you not seem to understand English? A body simply cannot be late.

            ^
            Would be a comment about someone's understanding of the English language.

            @lorna

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              TwoCables @lorna
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              @lorna said in Body later?:

              @Ryrynz said in Body later?:

              @TwoCables Why do you not seem to understand English? A body simply cannot be late.

              ^
              Would be a comment about someone's understanding of the English language.

              Thank you. You're absolutely correct.

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                RedEggsandPutty @TwoCables
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                  Ryrynz @TwoCables
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                  @TwoCables It's just a shame the English isn't.

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                    TwoCables @Ryrynz
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                    @Ryrynz said in Body later?:

                    @TwoCables It's just a shame the English isn't.

                    For the last time, it's correct. You only think it's incorrect because you don't know what it's actually saying. If you knew, then you would be able to see just how perfect and correct the English is. As I said, do the research on the science. If you refuse to do that, then just drop it because this is going nowhere.

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                    • lornaL
                      lorna @Ryrynz
                      last edited by lorna

                      @Ryrynz It's a new way of talking about the body. We want to get the science right. The English can be "wrong" until the rest of the world catches up. ¯\(ツ)/¯

                      @lorna

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                        rwvlasblom @Ryrynz
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                        @Ryrynz Read about the recent Nobel Prize award in Physiology/Medicine 2017:
                        https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/2017/advanced-medicineprize2017.pdf

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                            adavies4756 @TwoCables
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                            @TwoCables "you don't know what it's actually saying"

                            LOL, that's the whole point. It's pidgin English and does not communicate any information. For the last time, it's a useless statement.

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                              adavies4756 @TwoCables
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                              @TwoCables Why are you so committed to this bad English being correct when it is so clearly incorrect?

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                                adavies4756 @TwoCables
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                                @TwoCables Why don't you explain what it means, then? Instead of defending the indefensible? If it was useful English, this conversation wouldn't be happening. Wow.

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                                    Ryrynz @adavies4756
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                                    @adavies4756 I agree with your assessment of this sentence basically being pidgin English, the process is late, not the body. A single processes or even all processes within the body are not known as the body, so therefore a body cannot be late or later.

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                                    • Le PhamL
                                      Le Pham
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                                      I have to admit, it puzzled me a bit too. I thought it might have been, "light makes your body 'go to sleep' later".

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                                        rwvlasblom
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                                        From what I understand so far, describing with only a few words (and broader than just melatonin and sleep).

                                        The body in combination with the rest of the environment, functions as a clock. Therefore the body can be earlier or later when the environment is not what the body expects to sense. If the clock runs out of sync, it will have relative negative (energy) consequences and the amount of "work" the body can perform (life) decreases. Less energy equals being more sick. No energy equals being dead.

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                                          Tungsten_smooth @lorna
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                                          @lorna said in Body later?:

                                          ¯_(ツ)_/¯

                                          ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Here, you can have an extra arm (I think that's how it works, sorry if you have extra arms!

                                          It requires three right arms (on the left side).

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                                            TwoCables
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                                            Sigh. I'm tired of this.

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