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  • Hi,
    I took some time to adjust to v4 changes before posting. I'm quite happy with it now (wasn't at first :)).
    One thing i don't like is the lack of 1-click access (or hotkey) to my most commonly used options : Movie mode / darkroom mode / Vignette mode.
    The other "color effects" seem pretty useless to me, and I even read somewhere on the forum that they are considered "demo effects". So why create a sub-category for demos and hide useful options in there ?

    One more word : Vignette mode is amazing, thank you !
    It would be even better if it could detect where the text is and adjust accordingly, but it's already great.



  • If I set the drop-down box on the right in v4.47 to "Classic f.lux", should it be the same as how it used to look (by default) in version 3(.12)? It's just that I updated to 4.47 a few days ago and something seems very different about my screen now when the sun sets compared to what it used to be like in the previous version.

    Finding it all a bit confusing if I'm honest!



  • Here are two things that may have changed:

    1. We are doing a slow transition by default - if you prefer the old one you can select it in the options menu under transition speed (=medium)

    2. We are trying to match your monitor color more closely, but occasionally a monitor isn't cooperating. Again in the options menu, you can try unchecking "Use display data for better color accuracy"



  • Hello. I have a question regarding the new version of f.lux. On the old version, I used to use the color effect "reduce eyestrain". But now, I cannot find it anymore. How can I obtain the same effect? Thank you.



  • @Ady1989 0_1508231525361_upload-acfdb7a4-d4b4-4240-b358-9d8f001aee30 Click f.lux icon and then the drop-down menu on the upper right side.



  • @Bushido thank you. But, it will have the same effect, it will so the same thing? The "reduce eyestrain" effect used to change the color of my screen during the day. The one from that menu will do the same?



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  • @Bushido I don't think it has the same effect. The current one will stay permanently at 5900K. The previous one used to change this step by step, according to the sunlight. I don't want the color change that the program makes automatically. Maybe someone from f.lux may have a concrete answer.



  • It was renamed to "Soft White" because people were confused by having 2 settings of the same name that did 2 completely different things.



  • @TwoCables thank you. I will select the "soft white" effect and check during the dat if it has the same effect as the "reduce eyestrain" use to have. So the reduce eyestrain from the right menu what does it do?



  • @Ady1989 said in Version 3 to 4 Upgrade:

    @TwoCables thank you. I will select the "soft white" effect and check during the dat if it has the same effect as the "reduce eyestrain" use to have. So the reduce eyestrain from the right menu what does it do?

    Choosing "Soft White" changes the color immediately. It is the new name of the Color Effect called "Reduce Eyestrain". What it does has not changed.

    The menu he showed you is color temperature presets for Daytime, Nighttime and Bedtime mode. Play around with f.lux a little. ;)



  • Is it possible to change the hotkey for disabling flux? "alt+end" - my laptop doesn't have an end key -___-



  • @Sara-Prelise No, it is not possible. E-mailing to the developers of f.lux (support@justgetflux.com) might help to expand the variety of hotkeys.



  • With the new upgrade, all my screen shots are "dimmed", and people see the dimming effects when I am sharing my screen over Skype.

    This never happened with the older version.

    Can I turn this off?



  • @seraphim Usually the best thing to do is reboot. We are emulating effects in the GPU until you login again.



  • @seraphim Also how do you usually take screenshots? We have been considering a way for f.lux to disable automatically (very fast) for this, but it basically only works if we are the only app looking for the PrtScn key, which isn't always the case.



  • @herf I've rebooted many times. Problem did not go away. I ended up going back to version 3.

    I also noticed version 4 made me dizzy / nauseated. Glad I went back to version 3.

    For anyone else who wants version 3, it's here: https://justgetflux.com/faq.html (then search page for old version)



  • Imho, v3 more warmer than v4("classic flux mode") with the same temperature 3200. With v4 I feel uncomfortable. Revert to v3.



  • The major change in how v4 handles color can be adjusted this way:

    This setting makes f.lux do the right thing with wide-gamut displays and laptops that looked rather "green" in v3, but you can turn it off and it should look like the old version.

    If it looks a lot better when you turn it off, send us a note and we can send you a test app to see what's going on.



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  • @herf said in Version 3 to 4 Upgrade:

    The major change in how v4 handles color can be adjusted this way:

    This setting makes f.lux do the right thing with wide-gamut displays and laptops that looked rather "green" in v3, but you can turn it off and it should look like the old version.

    If it looks a lot better when you turn it off, send us a note and we can send you a test app to see what's going on.

    3200k, monitor AOC i2369v, nvidia 385.69
    v3 - warm orange, ok
    v4 - with Use display data for better color accuracy on - almost the same orange, little more white, not exactly what I need
    v4 - with Use display data for better color accuracy off - much more greeny, crap



  • Let me be sure I understand: This new version bases its lighting on what it understands are your bedtime and waking time? Not on the sun's position?

    If so, is there any way to revert to the previous behaviour? Unfortunately, due to my work, my bedtime often varies by several hours, and I'd rather not have to keep manually adjusting F.lux.

    While I deeply appreciate all your work on F.lux, as usual, I can't help getting the feeling that it may be getting what we in the software business call "feature-itis"—having more and more features just for the sake of, you know, having more features.

    What's more, some of these options are described in ways that many non-technical people (and/or people who are new to it) would find vague or confusing. It's very important to try to look at your options like you were seeing them for the first time. (This is why people usually hire tech writers, BTW—because it's often very hard, or impossible, for engineers to imagine they don't already understand their apps.)

    Finally, did you know that—in Google Chrome, at least—your forum edit box scrolls off the bottom of the screen? Up to a point, you can keep moving the scrollbar to see what you're typing, then looking at the Preview box, then playing with the Preview's scrollbar... It's probably not what you had in mind. Cheers, A.



  • @Ander It does have a more complicated schedule that's aware of differences in people, and yes, you can choose the "classic f.lux" preset to have the software operate like the previous version.

    As we said in the update notes, we think there's a good chance that the previous version was not doing a good job reducing light levels enough to avoid significant sleep disruption. So rather than ask you to dim all your lights at 5PM in the winter, this version tries to split the difference...a more moderate setting at sundown, and a more intense change before bed.

    Our goal with the software is to begin to fix a major problem we think is happening with all electric lighting and screens, and so we want it to serve the role of educating people about these problems and how they might think about them.

    So we think we have made the easy things easy - a big slider you can move to look the way you like, and some presets. And after that if you're happy you don't need to read any more.

    But there is very deliberately some confusing text that explains how your screen is programming your circadian clock, and this is not easy, but we think it is important, and that's why we did it, anyway.



  • I'm missing a little feature: show information about how many time left for sunset/sunrise when i rest the mouse cursor over the tray icon. Now it just says "f.lux", even in classic mode. Thanks in advance and sorry for my awful english!





  • @Bushido thanks! I missed this! Hope it will be back soon in a future version.



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  • @lorna hey!

    i'm having an issue where my slider and the Custom Colors are grayed out...
    am I doing something wrong?!

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  • @darienlake I will send you a private message with more information directly



  • I just went through and tested most of the new features in the upgrade. I just wanted to pass along that I really like the idea of the vignette mode, however, it fails on my dual-monitor workstation. It is only working on monitor #1.

    I have two additional dual-monitor workstations at home that I have NOT checked yet, but wanted to pass this along sooner rather than later. Thanks for a great product.



  • Hi) Im using the XWidget, and since the new upgrade is installed, area around the widgets is brighter. How to fix that. In old version everythink was fine.



  • @Taras-Gryshko likely that everything will be better after you reboot. we emulate some effects on the GPU until then.



  • @herf Yes it is) Tooday everythink is ok)



  • I think "disable for fullscreen" should ignore windows lock screen (after win+L).
    First, because then room with display highlights with blue color.
    Second, because after logon I see transition (I like slow transition, but not here).
    It is not even "app" in my, end user, mind, it just windows itself.



  • @Nahtanoj-Tarp-Aicrag I agree with the lack of 1-click access to Movie Mode. Possibly the most inconvenient change was hiding it in a sub-menu with no way of bringing it back as a main option. Maybe include a way to favorite colors and effects to make them show up when you right-click?



  • i hate this new version of the app i liked how simple the older version was version 4.55 is really hard to use just like how verizon just recently forced me to update my verizon mobile cause they dropped support for version 10 which was better and easier to use



  • @Nahtanoj-Tarp-Aicrag said in Version 3 to 4 Upgrade:

    One thing i don't like is the lack of 1-click access (or hotkey) to my most commonly used options

    I agree to this opinion. I miss the formerly 1-click-access to "Disable until sunrise". Now I have move the mouse cursor through the tiny menu. Very, very annoying for me, so I downgrade to the latest version with this 1-click-access.



  • Just press Alt+End.



  • @TwoCables said in Version 3 to 4 Upgrade:

    Just press Alt+End.

    Unfortunately shortcuts are no solution for me. I'm a human. My mind can only store 284 shortcuts. The memory for shortcuts in my mind is already full from all the other programs. Now only simple mouse clicks are useful.
    The new features in v4 are absolutely useless for me. Therefore I went back to v3.



  • @Benuzar said in Version 3 to 4 Upgrade:

    @TwoCables said in Version 3 to 4 Upgrade:

    Just press Alt+End.

    Unfortunately shortcuts are no solution for me. I'm a human. My mind can only store 284 shortcuts. The memory for shortcuts in my mind is already full from all the other programs. Now only simple mouse clicks are useful.
    The new features in v4 are absolutely useless for me. Therefore I went back to v3.

    lol ok



  • @TwoCables Thanks but Alt+End = Disable flux for 1 hour.
    What I am (we are, apparently) asking are shortcuts AND/OR 1-click access AND/OR adding a way to fav useful options such as movie mode, vignette mode (or Disable untile sunrise for Mr Benuzar).

    The bad move was to hide them in submenus.
    The good move would have been to let them accessible AND/OR to add shortcut access to those options.

    For instance :
    Alt+F11 = Movie mode,
    Alt+F12 = Vignette mode
    Alt+suppr = Disable till sunrise



  • @Nahtanoj-Tarp-Aicrag
    Full agree to your suggestions.



  • @Nahtanoj-Tarp-Aicrag said in Version 3 to 4 Upgrade:

    @TwoCables Thanks but Alt+End = Disable flux for 1 hour.
    What I am (we are, apparently) asking are shortcuts AND/OR 1-click access AND/OR adding a way to fav useful options such as movie mode, vignette mode (or Disable untile sunrise for Mr Benuzar).

    The bad move was to hide them in submenus.
    The good move would have been to let them accessible AND/OR to add shortcut access to those options.

    For instance :
    Alt+F11 = Movie mode,
    Alt+F12 = Vignette mode
    Alt+suppr = Disable till sunrise

    Those keyboard shortcuts are taken. If you don't believe me, do a Google search for "Alt+F11" and for "Alt+F12".

    Alt+Del is taken by Ctrl+Alt+Del. If f.lux had Alt+Del as a keyboard shortcut, then anytime someone pressed Ctrl+Alt+Del, f.lux would react to the Alt+Del part.

    With a program like f.lux, it's imperative to create keyboard shortcuts that aren't taken by anything else. That's not easy to do in a program like f.lux.

    If he were to re-arrange the menus the way you are asking for, then the main menu would be a big mess. Think about it. He put a huge amount of time and thought into it and has tried very hard to clean up the main menu.

    If you stay with v3, just realize that it will never again be updated. Ever.



  • @TwoCables Oh it doesn't matter, those were just examples.
    Alt, shift, Ctrl+whatever would be just fine.



  • @Nahtanoj-Tarp-Aicrag said in Version 3 to 4 Upgrade:

    @TwoCables Oh it doesn't matter, those were just examples.
    Alt, shift, Ctrl+whatever would be just fine.

    Right, but this conversation has been had on here dozens of times with a lot of people. Every single time Herf has had time to respond, he says the same thing: finding keyboard shortcuts that aren't taken by some popular program is next to impossible. So, that's why f.lux is set up the way it's set up. He has done the best that he can do.

    He is considering maybe allowing for the creation of custom keyboard shortcuts, but really, this is something that's only being asked for by a handful of people, and f.lux has hundreds of thousands of users.



  • @TwoCables said in Version 3 to 4 Upgrade:

    If he were to re-arrange the menus the way you are asking for, then the main menu would be a big mess.

    I cannot assess how effort would be necessary to program an option for the sub menus, named "Show this sub menu in the main menu!". This leads not necessarily to a big mess but to more user friendliness.
    No matter I very appreciate the work of the programmer of f.lux.



  • @Benuzar said in Version 3 to 4 Upgrade:

    @TwoCables said in Version 3 to 4 Upgrade:

    If he were to re-arrange the menus the way you are asking for, then the main menu would be a big mess.

    I cannot assess how effort would be necessary to program an option for the sub menus, named "Show this sub menu in the main menu!". This leads not necessarily to a big mess but to more user friendliness.
    No matter I very appreciate the work of the programmer of f.lux.

    Yeah, I can't either because I wouldn't even know how to create Hello World. I would imagine though that it would be a huge undertaking because those other menu options have to be created so that they exist. So, he has to come up with new menus. Then he has to create and intelligently place options for switching to those menus.

    is it worth it? It might seem like it, but really, this isn't exactly something that's in high demand. With how busy he is, he has to prioritize what is more important for the majority of the users.



  • I spent a half our or so attempting to get v4 to work the same way v3 does, which is to slightly redden my display beginning at sunset and until I shut down the computer. No amount of tinkering with v4 seems to emulate this simple behavior. I must be missing something. In addition to selecting the "classic f.lux" setting, how can I get v4 to just do what v3 did so well, and no more?

    Thanks!

    David



  • @David-J.-Bookbinder said in Version 3 to 4 Upgrade:

    I spent a half our or so attempting to get v4 to work the same way v3 does, which is to slightly redden my display beginning at sunset and until I shut down the computer. No amount of tinkering with v4 seems to emulate this simple behavior. I must be missing something. In addition to selecting the "classic f.lux" setting, how can I get v4 to just do what v3 did so well, and no more?

    Thanks!

    David

    I don't understand. If you have set your Location and if you have Classic F.lux selected and if you have your preferred color temperature selected, then it should work. What is it doing that you don't like? Can you explain it in detail?



  • I hate this new version. It is complicated and the colors are weird. The older version was so beautifully simple. Can I go back to the previous version?


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