f.lux beta discussion



  • @TwoCables Overload it! But hide it under and "Advanced user" or "Advanced settings". Some people want to control the shit out of f.lux. For example, when exactly to warm the screen, to which temperature exactly, maybe many times a day.



  • @shanebrendan said in f.lux beta discussion:

    @TwoCables also f.lux keeps showing up on my taskbar after rebooting even though i've hidden it, the other apps I've hidden aren't reappearing, just f.lux.

    Yep. Like I said, I think that's because f.lux is refreshing its icon. Why not just leave it alone? Why do you have to hide it? It's a useful icon. If you hide it, then you have to unhide it just to access it.



  • @Fluxing said in f.lux beta discussion:

    @TwoCables Overload it! But hide it under and "Advanced user" or "Advanced settings". Some people want to control the shit out of f.lux. For example, when exactly to warm the screen, to which temperature exactly, maybe many times a day.

    Yeah. I know. I've been on this forum for a few years. lol It started out as a Disquss forum, so my join date on this forum doesn't represent my beginning with this community.



  • @TwoCables hmm alright thanks, hope this gets fixed. I just prefer my taskbar minimal as possible and I don't have usually need to access the icon, the app is so good I can just leave it be or use the hotkeys should I need to :)


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    @Locheed which video card is this?



  • Hi there, long time user of f.lux. I was very happy to see a new version for Windows last night. I immediately uninstalled the old version (V3) and installed the beta. Looks great, though I wasn't able to sync my Philips Hue bridge with it. Is that feature not operational yet? Also, I always put my computer into sleep mode before going to bed and only the monitor turned off. I had to shut down the computer entirely. This morning after I rebooted it and left it running it didn't go to sleep on its own as well. I think f.lux might be preventing it from going to sleep.


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    @Sleepy Yes we are preventing full sleep if you turn on the Hue controller....needs to be an option. This is mainly to fix the "lightswitch or power outage" problem where Hue comes on at 100% when you flip the power. For your laptop, is it staying awake on battery or just A/C power? (I hope it's only when you're plugged in.)

    Hue pairing questions:

    1. Is there any content at https://www.meethue.com/api/nupnp ? We fallback to UPnP but this is more reliable.
    2. Are you being prompted to push the pairing button? There should be a visible notifier for the first 30 seconds after turning on the feature (and then it will fail).
    3. Is your hue bridge up to date, and is it the original or v2?
    4. I use http://www.telerik.com/fiddler to debug Hue, so if you like you may be able to see what's going on there.

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    @disqQ the new build (4.20) should sometimes show the "last 2" active apps so you can disable a game. Haven't tested this very much, but it may work.



  • Any chance we could get a 64 bit release now? :)



  • @TwoCables said in f.lux beta discussion:

    @dreadnaut said in f.lux beta discussion:

    • I would like to disable dimming completely, is there a configuration setting for that?

    Dimming? Or color temperature changing?

    Just the brightness dimming.



  • @dreadnaut said in f.lux beta discussion:

    @TwoCables said in f.lux beta discussion:

    @dreadnaut said in f.lux beta discussion:

    • I would like to disable dimming completely, is there a configuration setting for that?

    Dimming? Or color temperature changing?

    Just the brightness dimming.

    Do you mean you don't want it to dim when you press Alt+Page Down?



  • @TwoCables said in f.lux beta discussion:

    @dreadnaut said in f.lux beta discussion:

    Just the brightness dimming.

    Do you mean you don't want it to dim when you press Alt+Page Down?

    My screen became noticeably darker —less bright— at lower colour temperatures, which is something that didn't use to happen with v3: the colours would change, but the brightness would not vary. I sit in the same place and with the same light every evening, so I was surprised to have to increase the brightness of my screen.

    However, the effect seems now less noticeable, after updating to 4.20. Not sure if it's the preset changing, or something else.



  • Hey Mike, I love the Very Fast transition. F.lux goes from 6500K to 800K in about 3-4 seconds when I launch f.lux. I'd like that to be even faster, but hey.

    Can you make f.lux remember the last Dimming setting too?



  • @dreadnaut said in f.lux beta discussion:

    @TwoCables said in f.lux beta discussion:

    @dreadnaut said in f.lux beta discussion:

    Just the brightness dimming.

    Do you mean you don't want it to dim when you press Alt+Page Down?

    My screen became noticeably darker —less bright— at lower colour temperatures, which is something that didn't use to happen with v3: the colours would change, but the brightness would not vary. I sit in the same place and with the same light every evening, so I was surprised to have to increase the brightness of my screen.

    However, the effect seems now less noticeable, after updating to 4.20. Not sure if it's the preset changing, or something else.

    Yeah, this isn't adjustable in f.lux 4 Beta. He just made it much less pronounced in version 4.20 because other people didn't like it. We still can't control it.

    For me, the extra dimming made the reddest color have superior contrast than without the dimming. So now I dim manually.



  • @TwoCables said in f.lux beta discussion:

    Yeah, this isn't adjustable in f.lux 4 Beta. He just made it much less pronounced in version 4.20 because other people didn't like it. We still can't control it.

    Then I'm another person that doesn't like it. Mainly, because when the colour temperature changes I had to push the brightness up a notch manually to keep the same brightness. And in the morning, bring the brightness down again.

    What is the reason for the automatic brightness decrease?



  • @dreadnaut said in f.lux beta discussion:

    @TwoCables said in f.lux beta discussion:

    Yeah, this isn't adjustable in f.lux 4 Beta. He just made it much less pronounced in version 4.20 because other people didn't like it. We still can't control it.

    Then I'm another person that doesn't like it. Mainly, because when the colour temperature changes I had to push the brightness up a notch manually to keep the same brightness. And in the morning, bring the brightness down again.

    What is the reason for the automatic brightness decrease?

    I don't know. I'm guessing it's because we should be doing that anyway. Reducing the amount of blue light you're exposed to is only half the battle.



  • @TwoCables This is exactly what I think.



  • It's only natural. As the sun sets, 2 things happen:

    1. We get less and less blue light.
    2. The amount of total light decreases.

    So reducing the brightness along with reducing the amount of blue light is something our body recognizes immediately and it responds accordingly (it responds as expected). It is unnatural to keep the same brightness when reducing the amount of blue light. Of course, if your brightness is already very low and already kind of hard to see, then yeah I can see how this would be quite unwanted.



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  • @lorna I'm using a desktop, so it's staying awake on A/C power. To conserve energy, I put the computer to sleep before leaving for work and wake it back up when I come home. As far as the Hue pairing goes, I realized my mistake: I had my computer wired to the main router vs the wireless router that I have my Hue bridge connected to. So once I connected it back to the wireless router and put a check in the box, f.lux started beeping and I pressed the bridge button and now it's all synced. Thank you so much!


  • f.lux team

    Deleted some posts - let's keep on topic!

    We appreciate hearing all requests - consider this an interim release, all reactions and opinions are appreciated.


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    @Sleepy excellent - glad it is working!



  • something strange is happening in f.lux.
    I live in Lisbon and when i set the wake up to 5 PM (i work in the night shift) a blue line appears between nightime and bedtime (like a montain curve) wich is odd because changes color temperature to 6500K and then goes to candle mode when reaches bedtime. its annoying because my eyes are fine at 3400k and the color starts getting bright to 6500k then goes down to candle mode. PS: it only happens between 16:45 and 17:00.


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    @sitayi2308 could you send me a screenshot (OK to email - support at justgetflux dot com) of your settings? I cannot repeat this by setting to Lisbon and reproducing your time and settings....


  • f.lux team

    @dreadnaut To respond, we are trying a couple of different settings out in the beta program. What makes the light you see interfere with sleep is a combination of timing, color, brightness, distance, content (and a bunch of individual stuff about you). So it is all a tradeoff and we are searching for the right defaults (and then from there, helping you customize the rest). The first release was set dimmer than we intended as we live in a house that's quite a lot darker than most at night, so we brightened it up.



  • @lorna sent ;)



  • @herf

    Radeon HD 6970. Somehow it doesn't update color temperature after computer restart unless I open f.lux panel from task tray.


  • f.lux team

    @Locheed Two questions: Is this with our 4.20 build? And also, are you using Windows 10? (I had enough trouble with our HD 6750 that I had to pull it from a test machine running Win 10 Anniversary. (This is unrelated to f.lux - just old drivers that aren't getting updated). I'm sort of upset about this because I thought I had one Radeon that supported XP-Win10, but no more.)



  • Hello! I'm using 4.20 beta on Windows 7 x64. The "Custom Colors" dropdown only shows me "Recommended Settings". I saw when someone commented it was a firewall issue, but I've looked at my firewall settings, and didn't see any obvious signs that f.lux or its website are blocked. So, what could be going on in my case? I was also using 4.18 at first, and was surprised that it didn't update automatically, even though I have it set to do so.

    Overall, I'm enjoying the improvements in the new version. However, last night, it was bothering me with notifications that I don't need, such as "you wake up in 9 hours", and "you wake up in 8 1/2 hours" or stuff like that. Is there any way to disable such notifications, or could a setting be added to disable them?


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    @camartinez1229 yes sounds like you have a firewall that's blocking our update and our presets.
    the "backwards alarm clock" can be disabled in "Options"



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  • Thank you. I disabled the backwards alarm clock.

    However, what should I look for in my firewall settings? Like I said, I've checked, and did not see any entries for the f.lux app, or any blocking justgetflux.com or its IP. Is there a specific URL or IP I should be looking for? I don't know.


  • f.lux team

    @camartinez1229 Does internet explorer work at https://justgetflux.com/ ?


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    @sitayi2308 I replied to email, but this looks like your wake time is set at 1700, which means you might usually sleep from say 0900-1700? And then you're seeing a pop of daylight in the morning, before f.lux goes back to darkness.

    The "fix" for this is to set your wake time a bit earlier. If you sleep in, you won't notice.

    Interestingly, there actually is a "stable" night schedule that looks like this (a pop of light in the morning a couple hours before sleep). It's called a "skeleton photoperiod": https://www.google.com/search?q=skeleton+photoperiod - so if this is a schedule you need to maintain over the long term, this pop of light can actually be helpful, since it keeps you synchronized to the night schedule. f.lux has some early models of how to do this well, but we are improving them...



  • @herf Yes, I can open the website in Internet Explorer and Firefox.


  • f.lux team

    @camartinez1229 antivirus? the flux.exe process should be able to make connections to our server justgetflux.com



  • @herf No, I don't have antivirus. I uninstalled f.lux since I had previously upgraded over version 3, and then reinstalled the 4.20 beta. I'm still missing the other custom colors--all I see is "Recommended Settings".

    I then closed f.lux and reopened it, this time monitoring network connections using Netstat. It does establish a connection to the IP for justgetflux.com. So, I don't know now, what's going on.



  • @lorna said in f.lux beta discussion:

    So it is all a tradeoff and we are searching for the right defaults (and then from there, helping you customize the rest).

    Thanks for your answer. Being a beta, I'm not surprised to see experiments or a/b testing :)

    Regarding the customization, please keep in mind the you can keep the UI simple by exposing additional options in the configuration file. Most users will be happy with the UI options, and others will be just as happy to dig in the config files and tweak values.

    Separately, I can confirm the issue with the icon in the notification tray: when the session starts is always visible, whether the "Backwards alarm" option is enabled or not. This might be connected with the way you update the title/tooltip message, which make the icon appear as new to Windows. I would expect the icon to follow the user choice to hide it from the taskbar.



  • Hey,

    Firstly. Great work. Love the update, especially with the two time colour change options. Only 1 issue so far.

    When setting the disable flux for an application with a windows UWP (store) app, it disables flux for the ApplicationFrameHost. Therefore, if I disable Flux for the Netflix App, it will also disable for all other store apps, including settings etc.


  • f.lux team

    @abulawright thanks - we will have to do better here!


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