Custom sunset/sunruse schedule - default is not OK for me.
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Hi
I have specific work schedule and default sunrise/sunset settings are NOT OK for me. I need bright settings till midnight-01 AM, and then to change setting for next hour when I finish my work.
Default setting and inability to change is forcing me to click to delay every hour or delay till sunrise often forgetting to switch it back.
Setting chron (task manager) to start and kill application is not recommended workaround.
Please implement custom schedule to simulate sunset/sunrise whenever user wants.
Thannks
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Hold your ctrl key and push the night slider to day.
Do the same for the top slider.
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How does this solve the problem?
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It allows you to set the night time to be higher than the daytime, so I thought you'd want it to be bright at night, and warm in the day. This does not seem to be your schedule though.
Currently you'll have to swap your location to somewhere in the world that matches closely to your schedule.
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The best solution that I have come up with so far is to change your Location in f.lux to a place where the sunset time at that location matches your artificial sunset time, so-to-speak. It's really the only way that we can do this until Mike (who is @herf , who is half of the @f-lux-team ) can create a new version for Windows that allows us to do exactly what you're saying.
You see, I don't have a sleep schedule, so I'm always using f.lux manually. I haven't allowed f.lux to do an automatic transition since the day I installed it. Sometimes I'm going to bed at some point after sunrise (but still before sunset), and when I do, I have to change my Location to a place where Sunset has already happened so that I can choose my preferred Night color. I do this because I can block out most of the daylight coming into my room.
When I decide that I'm done sleeping and I'd like to get out of bed, it doesn't matter if f.lux thinks that Sunrise hasn't happened yet because when I get around to turning my computer on, I just change the color to 6500K and I'm done. No fooling around, no hassle, just a quick slide of the slider and I'm done (well, that is, if it's still using my Night color).
I don't need the transition and it seems pointless to me because by the time that I've turned my computer on, I've already spent some time doing things like, going to the bathroom and whatever else - all with my indoor lighting at full brightness (or with full daylight coming in if it's during the day). By the time I turn my computer on, I've been out of bed for at least a half an hour. I don't think it's a good idea to wake up and turn the computer on in the dark. I just get out of bed and turn the lights on and then spend some time waking myself up, getting the blood flowing, etc. I go to the bathroom, etc. etc. etc. and then finally I sit down and turn the computer on.
Then at the end of my "day", the process repeats itself: if the sunset hasn't happened locally yet, then I just change my Location in f.lux to a place where it has already happened and then I go from there.
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I need something like this too, just an automatic, as-needed screen dimmer/blue light remover. I don't sleep on a 24 hour cycle so sometimes I am going to bed at 2am, sometimes at 2pm and anytime in between so just having the screen follow a 'normal' 24-hour clock is worthless to me. On the twilight app on my Android tablet I just switch between 'custom' and 'always' and can turn it on and off as needed. Is there another program that can do this for Windows if f.lux can't? Thanks a bunch for any help.
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Thanks for letting us know about your schedule and your feature request.
Irregular and non-24 schedules are definitely harder to handle so it's helpful to hear what you need.
@willy Based on the numbers from a spectrometer, I'd recommend you uninstall the twilight app and dim your phone when you need it dimmed. Twilight does turn things pink but it isn't nearly as effective at removing alerting wavelengths as dimming (or for that matter, f.lux) is. Hope we have more news in that space soon.
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@willy said:
I need something like this too, just an automatic, as-needed screen dimmer/blue light remover. I don't sleep on a 24 hour cycle so sometimes I am going to bed at 2am, sometimes at 2pm and anytime in between so just having the screen follow a 'normal' 24-hour clock is worthless to me. On the twilight app on my Android tablet I just switch between 'custom' and 'always' and can turn it on and off as needed. Is there another program that can do this for Windows if f.lux can't? Thanks a bunch for any help.
Why not just do what I'm doing? Read my post above to learn more about it. My way is surprisingly extremely easy and enjoyable. With my method, you're in the driver's seat at all times.
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@lorna thanks for listening. I am not using it on the phone. I am not needing it there. I need it for a desktop/work machine. Sometimes I am working, sometimes I am relaxing. But I want to set it when to go dim and when not.
This is the only possible way I can use it (if you disregard nagging and disabling).There is a suggestion, however (since I am developer). If it is too costly to implement scheduling properly, you can make it run with parameters from a command line.
eg.: flux -dim 3000K (or similar,, but you get the point) -
This REALLY needs attention. I know 4 months is not long in developer time but it seems like this wouldn't be a major fix unless you're operating on spaghetti code. You just need a method to override the the scheduling and a little addition to the interface...
My situation is that in the winter, we get down to an 8-hour day and 16 hour night. It's neat that f.lux knows when the sun goes down, but when it goes down at 4:30pm I REALLY don't want my screen to dim. In fact, I'd prefer it to dim at about 9 or 10 pm year around. I just don't understand why there's not a custom timer setting. Even my phone app has it. What gives? Do I need to find a different app? Do you guys need a developer?
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@Jacob-Johnston, I feel like you could choose to say this in a nicer way.
I certainly understand your frustrations, and I hope you'll like what's coming up next. But the tone of your comment makes me want to go do stuff other than hanging out on this forum answering questions right now.
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@Jacob-Johnston said:
This REALLY needs attention. I know 4 months is not long in developer time but it seems like this wouldn't be a major fix unless you're operating on spaghetti code. You just need a method to override the the scheduling and a little addition to the interface...
My situation is that in the winter, we get down to an 8-hour day and 16 hour night. It's neat that f.lux knows when the sun goes down, but when it goes down at 4:30pm I REALLY don't want my screen to dim. In fact, I'd prefer it to dim at about 9 or 10 pm year around. I just don't understand why there's not a custom timer setting. Even my phone app has it. What gives? Do I need to find a different app? Do you guys need a developer?
You need to know that f.lux is owned and operated by just two people: a husband and wife team. They don't have anyone else involved. So, please try to be patient.
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@TwoCables That's completely irrelevant, and when you see how much is about to come out, you will understand what I mean. My point stands - if we were a thousand person team, someone who cares about the product would still have to go through the forums and read his note. There are positive ways to ask for things that get you what you want and then there's, well, this.
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My problem is, people treat you like you have a big team or something. They expect faster responses, they expect faster implementation of new ideas, faster deployment of new versions, etc. They treat you like you're a big company. Some even treat you poorly until they find out that it's just you and MIchael. I guess I'm tired of seeing you put up with it because I can clearly see how it upsets you.
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It's just fine if we look like a big company. (But talking to a big company that way won't get you what you want either.) I'm pretty excited about what's coming up though. We could keep 10 people very busy but it's pretty fun to still be small. Clearly it doesn't seem to some people like we're moving fast. I get the frustration. The new stuff is fantastic. I'd be mad too if I weren't already using it ;)
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Yeah, you guys are doing an amazingly good job that honestly leaves me speechless. Here you are just you and Michael and yet it really does feel like you're a well-established small business with a good-sized team of dedicated and caring individuals. I just love you both! There, I said it. :)
I'm really looking forward to the new version. I know without even looking at it that it's going to be absolutely fantastic!
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Here's another user that lives in area where sunset happens really early. The program itself works fantastic and it's a major innovation (and probably lot of work) to include time-zone specific feature!
All that said, user-specifiable "sunset" time and "sunrise" would mean all the difference in the world for people like me. I usually use my computer quite late, much beyond the real sunset (I would like to start "night" for f.lux about two hours before bedtime). At summer, on the other hand, the problem is the opposite. The only thing I can do, is set the coordinates exactly at the equator, where is 12-hour cycle all year round. But even this does't solve the core problem, as most of us are awake a lot more than 12 hours. (If I place my location to the southern hemisphere, this problem obviously disappears, but requires manual coordinate shifting all the time).
Several older messages tells about the same issue. I post it once again to stress the severity of this problem. I'm also quite conviced that adding two boxes for "daytime" and "nighttime" is quite easy to implement, given that the coordinate-based system must have been difficult work, and yet it is a success.
While waiting eagerly the solution, could someone tell about "Windows Task Scheduler"? I know how to schedule a program, but I don't know how to automatically kill it once running.
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More about Windows Task handler. Windows scheduler's TASKKILL command (flux.exe) or closing flux.exe via Windows Task Manager seems to close the program, but doesn't restore the normal colours.
My computer has Win7 and AMD display adapter.
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Why do that when you can just exit f.lux using its Notification Area icon's context menu (right-click the icon)? Or why not just manually switch f.lux to 6500K?
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@TwoCables They want automation.
