[Win10] Darkroom causes screen to become soild red with dots of black.



  • Hello folks,
    I've been using F.lux for a while now (to be precise, since the release of windows 8) and its worked fine.
    Then I decided to try out Darkroom, and I got a s solid red screen with black dots and shapes in areas with high contrast.
    Ex:
    http://s8.postimg.org/8e4n98omd/img_20160110_162558.jpg
    http://s8.postimg.org/do9m0j8v9/Screenshot_255.png

    Note: The red is eye scorchingly bright.

    After 5 minutes of random clicking on the task bar I was able to disable darkroom.



  • Screenshots don't capture what f.lux is doing - as you can see by your screenshot. So, photos are the only way to go.

    It looks to me like you have some sort of setting turned up way too high, like maybe NVIDIA's Digital Vibrance. When f.lux is set to very warm colors or when Darkroom Mode is on, everything looks a thousand times better with Digital Vibrance set to 50%. If you don't have an NVIDIA GPU, then I don't know what the equivalent would be for you, but Digital Vibrance is a color saturation setting.

    I use an extremely high Digital Vibrance setting during the day, but I can't use that setting at night because I set f.lux to 800K. If I don't turn down Digital Vibrance (if I don't set it to 50%), then everything is way too washed out and I have a hard time seeing things.



  • Screenshots don't capture what f.lux is doing - as you can see by your screenshot. So, photos are the only way to go.
    

    The first image is a photo from my Phone, I only had the screenshot so you know what I was trying to run.

    It looks to me like you have some sort of setting turned up way too high, like maybe NVIDIA's Digital Vibrance. When f.lux is set to very warm colors or when Darkroom Mode is on, everything looks a thousand times better with Digital Vibrance set to 50%. If you don't have an NVIDIA GPU, then I don't know what the equivalent would be for you, but Digital Vibrance is a color saturation setting.
    

    I got AMD. AMD Color Controls is disabled so its not affecting my saturation (that's what AMD calls Digital Vibrance.)
    I've tried activating AMD Color Controls to see if it not running is the problem but it disables it self when f.lux runs.



  • I don't know what to say at this point. I'll have to wait for either Michael or Lorna (they are the f.lux team).

    In the meantime, how did you reply like that with the black background and colored text on what I said?



  • I don't know what to say at this point. I'll have to wait for either Michael or Lorna (they are the f.lux team).
    

    Oh well, thanks for ya time.

    In the meantime, how did you reply like that with the black background and colored text on what I said?
    

    Add 4 spaces ahead of it...



  • @Gentz said:

    I don't know what to say at this point. I'll have to wait for either Michael or Lorna (they are the f.lux team).
    

    Oh well, thanks for ya time.

    In the meantime, how did you reply like that with the black background and colored text on what I said?
    

    Add 4 spaces ahead of it...

    test

    You must be on some kind of a mobile device. It's strange how it colorizes portions of it.



  • Theirs quotes? Derp...

    I'm on my PC. No mobile here :).

    Try this without the dots:
    . . . . .test



  • @Gentz said:

    Theirs quotes? Derp...

    I'm on my PC. No mobile here :).

    Try this without the dots:
    . . . . .test

    Derp? Dude... please don't do that. I'm obviously aware of the Quotes. I'm just trying to ask how you're doing that. You explained it, I tried it, but it's not working for me - and then you go "There's quotes? Derp..." That's not funny; it just seems kinda rude to me. Like what, am I stupid now? It's like, I'm sorry for asking.



  • @TwoCables Yeah, that's a bit rediculous.

    this is a quote (of myself) but testing the code like section...

     (FIVE spaces) just trying because you said four is not doing it, I will do four spaces, and one more for the start of whatever this formatting is.
    

    Seriously, what the hell is this? Also, four spaces works just fine for me, but I don't understand the reasoning for select colored words, seems really creepy.



  • Actually, it can be kind of fun:

    Is not do and for of this is! It makes perfect sense.

    Or wait,

    Just trying because you said four doing it, I will four spaces, one more the start whatever formatting.

    Edit: Ok I see now that the spaces go after the '>' symbol. It would have been nice of you to simply say that, Gentz instead of being a jerk with "There's quotes? Derp..."

    Anyway, it looks like some sort of 'code' formatting to me.



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  • @Tungsten_smooth said:

    Seriously, what the hell is this?  Also, four spaces works just fine for me, but I don't understand the reasoning for select colored words, seems really creepy.
    

    We should do this exclusively on Halloween. It would creep everyone out.

    Edit: It's for posting code.



  • @TwoCables hmmm well I know a bit of debian code, I wonder if it likes that

    sudo apt-get install xflux


  • @Gentz Hey, turn down the contrast setting on your monitor to 40 and set brightness to 75. Let me know the results.



  • Here's some CSS code I wrote for the Firefox Add-ons Manager page, just to show you what I'm talking about. Notice the color-coding:

    @namespace url(http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul);
    
    @-moz-document url("about:addons") {
    	
    .category[selected] {
    	  padding-inline-start: 15px;
        border-inline-start: solid 0px var(--in-content-border-highlight);
    }
    .sorter[checkState="1"],
    .sorter[checkState="2"] {
    	  background-color: #EDF1F7;
    	  box-shadow: 1px 1px 2px transparent inset;
    }
    #header-utils-btn:active:hover:not([disabled="true"]),
    #header-utils-btn[open="true"] {
    	  background-color: #D7E0EC;
    }
    .header-button:hover:not([disabled="true"]),
    #header-utils-btn:hover:not([disabled="true"]) {
    	  background-color: #D7E0EC;
    }
    .addon[selected] {
    	  background-color: #C6D3E5 !important;
        padding-inline-start: 5px;
        border-inline-start: 0px;
    }
    .addon {
        padding-inline-start: 5px;
        border-inline-start: 0px;
    }
    .addon:hover {
        background-color: #F3F6F9;
    }
    :root {
        --in-content-box-background-hover: #DCE4EF;
    	  --in-content-box-background-active: #CBD7E7;
    }
    
    }
    

    The color coding isn't quite perfect, but it's still very good. This forum platform has just impressed the pants off of me.



  • @TwoCables Cool, I like it. Also I don't need the quote symbol before the extra spaces.



  • @Tungsten_smooth said:

    @TwoCables Cool, I like it. Also I don't need the quote symbol before the extra spaces.

    Oh wow
    

    lol It looks like a ransom note when it's not code.



  • OMG I just noticed a funny Ghostbusters reference:

    http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul
    

    Do you see it? lol

    Oh wait, you gotta to go this page: https://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul

    To give you an idea of how good this is, here's what I see in Firefox when I'm working with CSS code (I use the Dark Theme in Firefox's Inspector, which isn't the default):

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/udxq4glwozm7k4v/CodeComparisonForf.luxForum.png?raw=1



  • @TwoCables said:

    @Gentz said:

    Theirs quotes? Derp...

    I'm on my PC. No mobile here :).

    Try this without the dots:
    . . . . .test

    Derp? Dude... please don't do that. I'm obviously aware of the Quotes. I'm just trying to ask how you're doing that. You explained it, I tried it, but it's not working for me - and then you go "There's quotes? Derp..." That's not funny; it just seems kinda rude to me. Like what, am I stupid now? It's like, I'm sorry for asking.

    You sir misunderstood me. I never knew their was quotes which is why I used the code formatting. When I discovered that I failed to read the button which says 'quote' I relized how stupid I was.

    I'm sorry I offended you, but I wasn't saying your stupid, I was saying I'm stupid...



  • @Tungsten_smooth said:

    @Gentz Hey, turn down the contrast setting on your monitor to 40 and set brightness to 75. Let me know the results.

    Set brightness from 25 to 75, and set contrast from 50 to 40 and now the reds brighter and their is slightly more black (like 10 extra pixels).
    So I took my contrasts to 100 and the pixels all disappeared. Dropped it to zero and I could make out like 10 words and that's all.
    Reverted back to my previous settings.



  • @Gentz said:

    @TwoCables said:

    @Gentz said:

    Theirs quotes? Derp...

    I'm on my PC. No mobile here :).

    Try this without the dots:
    . . . . .test

    Derp? Dude... please don't do that. I'm obviously aware of the Quotes. I'm just trying to ask how you're doing that. You explained it, I tried it, but it's not working for me - and then you go "There's quotes? Derp..." That's not funny; it just seems kinda rude to me. Like what, am I stupid now? It's like, I'm sorry for asking.

    You sir misunderstood me. I never knew their was quotes which is why I used the code formatting. When I discovered that I failed to read the button which says 'quote' I relized how stupid I was.

    I'm sorry I offended you, but I wasn't saying your stupid, I was saying I'm stupid...

    Aw damn. I guess I've been having to deal with too many haters on the internet lately. I apologize, Gentz.



  • @Gentz O.K. so clearly there's something set wrong.

    Try this, if your monitor has presets like movie, picture, game, then try the one that says "sRGB". Now if it allows, set the contrast low on this mode as well. We'll eventually find the cause!



  • @TwoCables said:

    @Gentz said:

    @TwoCables said:

    @Gentz said:

    Theirs quotes? Derp...

    I'm on my PC. No mobile here :).

    Try this without the dots:
    . . . . .test

    Derp? Dude... please don't do that. I'm obviously aware of the Quotes. I'm just trying to ask how you're doing that. You explained it, I tried it, but it's not working for me - and then you go "There's quotes? Derp..." That's not funny; it just seems kinda rude to me. Like what, am I stupid now? It's like, I'm sorry for asking.

    You sir misunderstood me. I never knew their was quotes which is why I used the code formatting. When I discovered that I failed to read the button which says 'quote' I relized how stupid I was.

    I'm sorry I offended you, but I wasn't saying your stupid, I was saying I'm stupid...

    Aw damn. I guess I've been having to deal with too many haters on the internet lately. I apologize, Gentz.

    No problem mate. :)



  • @Tungsten_smooth said:

    @Gentz O.K. so clearly there's something set wrong.

    Try this, if your monitor has presets like movie, picture, game, then try the one that says "sRGB". Now if it allows, set the contrast low on this mode as well. We'll eventually find the cause!

    My screen got 5: "User, eco, normal, graphics, movie". Shuffled through them and only the screen brightness changed. I also had a color temp setting. I shuffled through them to and it also did nothing.

    Then I found a color amount setting. I set it to 10% red and 100% green and blue. So if theirs any green or blue to be rendered it would then render them at max capacity. All I had was a dim screen.



  • @Gentz Can you go to a system / info menu to locate the model of the monitor? Maybe we're missing something.



  • @Gentz Have you expanded the color range?

    Uh, if that's a white page, darkroom should show it with a

    black background and red text.
    

    It actually looks like your using the Ember 1200K setting, OR you are using Darkroom mode, and have somehow inverted the colors, which WILL strongly reduce contrast. Would you please have a look into it when you get time?



  • S/N: ETLTKORO29422056B82442?
    Is that the model? All I remember is its an acer and its 1980x1080.

    Edit: Forgot about Dxdiag, their always good.

    DXDIAG



  • I have expanded the color range but currently at day its set to 5500K and at night to 4400k so I don't see why it would affect it. Also the photos were taken at day. I've tried setting both to 6500k but same results. I've also not inverted any colors. When not in DarkMode I can see it as white, like it should be.

    Also: This issue was also happening before I upgraded from win 8 to win 10, but I've always been to lazy to report it.



  • @Gentz can you take a picture of this page in darkroom mode so I really understand the issue?

    It just seems inverted somehow, so maybe it's just that webpage.





  • @Gentz yep something is wrong with your color settings. It's way too strong of an effect (I can't see ANY words) and also it's not inverting the screen.

    Please hold the Windows key and tap the + on the number pad. You can zoom out with "windows key and -"

    Do CTRL Alt i
    This will invert the colors on the screen. It's the only way I know how, hopefully that will make it look like it should. Then we can try to figure out what would stop f.lux from inverting the colors once it goes red.

    Also if you don't mind, take a few pictures of the AMD color settings. I know you've set it to ignore them but maybe there's something that's still changing stuff.



  • Wow. You can invert the inversion that's done by Darkroom Mode. It's like simply setting f.lux to 800K. Nice trick.



  • No Zoom:
    http://s8.postimg.org/e6jw84rfp/IMG_20160112_170550.jpg
    Zoom (No DIF):
    http://s8.postimg.org/celvg41r9/IMG_20160112_170647.jpg

    Inverted: (Kinda works, altho menus are now SOLID RED, making the mode still unusable)
    http://s8.postimg.org/h0rmzbizp/IMG_20160112_170713.jpg



  • Every page in Catalyst:
    http://postimg.org/gallery/w7txbpiw/14cc3374/

    Screenshot 259 and 264* are of interest as they are the only ones which directly affect the brightness, contrasts, hue, saturation and color temp directly.

    *Thier is not 264+ images, its just my screenshot folder HAD over things. Images are 256 to 283.



  • Try toggling and experimenting with the Color Temperature Control settings.





  • Do you have anything else running that might be messing with the display output?



  • @Gentz yep when you inverted colors with the zoom, it looks about as expected.

    We still need to figure out what is preventing f.lux from inverting your colors.

    I just say uninstall your AMD graphics driver (and delete it's settings if you get that option) and reinstall (a clean install not using any current settings if possible), because I'm out of ideas at this point. Thank you so much for being so responsive and trying all suggestions! It really is appreciated.



  • @Tungsten_smooth said:

    @Gentz yep when you inverted colors with the zoom, it looks about as expected.

    We still need to figure out what is preventing f.lux from inverting your colors.

    I just say uninstall your AMD graphics driver (and delete it's settings if you get that option) and reinstall (a clean install not using any current settings if possible), because I'm out of ideas at this point. Thank you so much for being so responsive and trying all suggestions! It really is appreciated.

    Do you mean you expected everything to be surrounded by a red like that? It looks strange, like everything has a red frosting on it or something.



  • @TwoCables Nope. Or atleast none that I know of.



  • Perhaps some proprietary software is running that messes with things like color and whatnot.



  • @Tungsten_smooth Removed AMD Catalyst, and same results. :(

    @TwoCables Maybe. Tracking down a program which may or may not exist doesn't seem fun. I imagine it might be a game, but I don't got any running right now so it probably isn't.



  • @Gentz said:

    @Tungsten_smooth Removed AMD Catalyst, and same results. :(

    @TwoCables Maybe. Tracking down a program which may or may not exist doesn't seem fun. I imagine it might be a game, but I don't got any running right now so it probably isn't.

    Do you know the items in your Notification Area? Or do you never look at them?



  • @Gentz removing catalyst control center does not remove the driver. You'll have to go to device manager now to uninstall the graphics driver (assuming you could have done that with the control center).

    Please remove the driver, and re download from the AMD website.

    I want to stress this because when you took the screen shot, it said the next update check was Jan 5. Oh that was just for the program well anyway I think it's got to be driver related.



  • @TwoCables said:

    @Gentz said:

    @Tungsten_smooth Removed AMD Catalyst, and same results. :(

    @TwoCables Maybe. Tracking down a program which may or may not exist doesn't seem fun. I imagine it might be a game, but I don't got any running right now so it probably isn't.

    Do you know the items in your Notification Area? Or do you never look at them?

    Yup I know what's their, none of em' should be affecting the monitor in anyway (other than rendering windows\menus to the screen).

    @Tungsten_smooth said:

    @Gentz removing catalyst control center does not remove the driver. You'll have to go to device manager now to uninstall the graphics driver (assuming you could have done that with the control center).

    Please remove the driver, and re download from the AMD website.

    I want to stress this because when you took the screen shot, it said the next update check was Jan 5. Oh that was just for the program well anyway I think it's got to be driver related.

    Ok. I'll tell you when I'm finished.



  • Do I remove the display adapter?



  • @Gentz Before you do that just search "uninstall programs" for the driver instead

    uh yes I believe that's correct--windows should revert to basic so your screen isn't black.



  • @Tungsten_smooth Used AMD clean uninstall to uninstall EVERYTHING from AMD. Even the AMD Audio drivers! It also cleans the register.

    Now using the new AMD Crimson drivers for my APU (I specifically went under my APU's driver list thingy, so not just a random driver) which were just released this year. AND darkmode still ain't working. :(

    On another note: I just remembered that darkmode didn't work even when I had Windows 8.1. So it can't be from my upgrade to Win 10.



  • I don't agree that this might be a driver issue (I never thought it was). I think that it's being caused by some other software that's running. Either that, or it's a color profile.

    Is this a laptop? Or is it a pre-built 'desktop' computer (like a tower)? Or is it a computer that you built?



  • @TwoCables Prebuilt desktop.
    http://www.staples.ca/StaplesProductDisplay?catalogIdentifier=2-CA&langId=1&productId=4265362&storeId=20001&externalize=certona&cm_mmc=AFF--SBD--LinkShare-CAqD7bLWUPI--1--10&siteID=CAqD7bLWUPI-jP8i9g7MyIsENp6xhnrpmQ

    Edit: wrong website... same specs tho so doesn't really matter.



  • All I'm getting is a page that tells me to enter a Canadian postal code. I didn't just blindly click the clickable part either: I copied the whole thing.

    Anyway, I'm not concerned about specs: I want to see what software is likely installed that could be related to the GPU or display or both.


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